In this episode of That Tech Pod, we sit down with Josh Meier a Senior Generative AI Author at Pluralsight, where he helps professionals cut through the hype and learn how to use AI responsibly and effectively. With a background in software engineering, data engineering, and data science, Josh has built his career around translating complex ideas for both technical and non-technical audiences. We talk with Josh about what it really means to teach AI in a world where anyone can ask ChatGPT for an instant answer. He explains why structured learning still matters, how to separate casual tinkering from business-ready skills, and why human guidance is essential in a space that changes every few weeks. We also dig into some of the more controversial headlines—AI “lying” to users, models “trying to escape,” and facial recognition being used for both good and harm—and ask how society should weigh innovation against the risks of misuse. Finally, Josh shares his take on what the next big wave of AI innovation might look like. In the outtro, we discuss if we've finally made it because Laura saw someone in our swag "in the wild." You don't want to miss this episode!

Josh Meier (Meyer) is a Senior Generative AI Author at Pluralsight who helps professionals make sense of a fast-changing AI landscape. With a background in software engineering, data engineering, and data science, Josh has built a career around digging into data, uncovering insights, and translating complex concepts for both technical and non-technical audiences. Outside of work, he’s passionate about teaching and even finds inspiration in astronomy. In this conversation, we’ll dive into his work on generative AI, the hype around “AI gone rogue,” the unique challenges of AI security testing, and the ethical line between innovation and misuse.