Today Laura and Kevin speak with privacy expert Alan Chapell about digital media and privacy. We talk about the FBI and CIA tracking our phones, how we have become numb to personal surveillance, the Chappell Report, credit at the expense of privacy, why we can't delete Facebook even though we all know we should, Alan's musical talent, stopping by a jazz party in Florida, figuring our how the Spotify algorithm works, if Ticketmaster is selling Kevin's data and the most common privacy mistake we all make. We also discuss our music tastes and debate who'd you'd rather get stuck in an elevator with, Laura or Kevin. This is a fun episode!

Alan Chapell is outside privacy counsel to digital media companies and the principal analyst at the Chapell Report. Chapell started his career in digital media at Jupiter Research in 1997. Since 2003, Chapell has advised well over two hundred different companies, from venture backed startups to some of the largest media, technology, and telecommunications companies in the world.

Chapell & Associates’ mission is to help clients navigate regulatory, public policy and other marketplace challenges to maximize the value of their products and services. The Chapell Report is a monthly continuous information research tool focusing on the intersection between privacy, addressability and competition for data driven advertisers worldwide – helping them understand the key trends driving the advertising and media marketplace.

Alan is also an accomplished musician. Check him out.